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Re: Solaris roadmap for availability of Expansion Packs, etc

by lotus-eater » Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:04 pm

Great idea! No need to ditch an old algorithm if it's got some low-end magic missing in the newer, alias-free type.

Re: Solaris roadmap for availability of Expansion Packs, etc

by John Bowen » Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:45 am

lotus-eater wrote:Both of those seem like great additions. :D

Is this second multimode osc already in place in the plugin solaris, or did the idea evolve out of something else?
This MM2 Osc Type is basically what the plug-in already uses as its MM1 Type. Because it’s been over 10 years since Klaus first designed that oscillator, he wanted to update and improve his models, especially concerning any aliasing in the very high range (it is a certain mark of pride among these coding guys!). But there is still a certain character that I liked about the older ones, so I’ve asked if he could put in a version that had those elements as well.

john b.

Solaris roadmap for availability of Expansion Packs, etc..

by lotus-eater » Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:16 pm

Both of those seem like great additions. :D

Is this second multimode osc already in place in the plugin solaris, or did the idea evolve out of something else?

Solaris roadmap for availability of Expansion Packs, etc..

by John Bowen » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:54 pm

I forgot to mention 2 other items on the list:

1) A ‘MultiMode Osc 2’ - this is a ‘less perfect’ multimode osc that has more low frequency content, but susceptible to some aliasing in the upper registers...a bit ‘dirty’.

2) CS-80/60 filter block emulation.

jb

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by galaxiesmerge » Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:22 pm

John Bowen wrote:
ThreeFingersOfLove wrote:Well, it is my understanding that when people mention FM they usually mean exponential FM, unless otherwise stated. In linear FM, the harmonics are added without shifting the pitch of the notes, except at extreme settings. I would like to hear some examples, when possible.
We have both linear and exponential frequency mod provided, but figured that there may be a lot of people who are less familiar with those descriptions, so we changed the labeling to 'Pitch' for the exponential and 'FM' for the linear. (Personally I was fine with expo and lin, but others felt more strongly for Pitch and FM).
-jb
Hi John,

I really like the VIMEO demo of the Munich meeting and I have to say that I was really excited --- count me in for the future expansion packs --- I an already see clearly that this is a *players* instrument but one that will also keep the sound *tweakers* happy. Great job John!!!

-A

by John Bowen » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:42 pm

ThreeFingersOfLove wrote:Well, it is my understanding that when people mention FM they usually mean exponential FM, unless otherwise stated. In linear FM, the harmonics are added without shifting the pitch of the notes, except at extreme settings. I would like to hear some examples, when possible.
We have both linear and exponential frequency mod provided, but figured that there may be a lot of people who are less familiar with those descriptions, so we changed the labeling to 'Pitch' for the exponential and 'FM' for the linear. (Personally I was fine with expo and lin, but others felt more strongly for Pitch and FM).
-jb

by galaxiesmerge » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:24 pm

John Bowen wrote:Hi Arun,

What we have discussed is having the first update around June 2011. This would include "DX-7 style" FM, otherwise known as Phase Modulation. (I understand that the Casio version of Phase Distortion is a different approach, and we can also consider adding some for of that.) We do have true linear FM on there now....which may or may not be what you mean when you say FM synthesis.

Further on, we have plans for a Filter Bank/resonator, vocoder, and Multi-timbre Mode. I'm sure user requests by then will be added to the list, including some enhancements to the current functionality (like adding a choice of smooth or coarse transitions to the Wavetable indexing).

re: constraints that drive a timeline - money, mostly.

cheers,
john b.
Hey John this is a great look forward and I really appreciate this! The timeline is fine though of course, impatient as I will always be, I wish it was there yesterday :)

However, this helps me a lot --- one thing that I think is useful is polyphonic vocoders (like 8 or 16 band vocoders) for modulating polyphonic oscillators - I hope I communicated this well enough ... you get really cool movement in sounds with a few bands but working polyphonically (I can currently do this with the Kyma - you only need like 8 bands max - from 4 ot 16 bands is fine). You could do this with multple bandpass filters that are tempo-synched to Midi also, but, the vocoder approach allows some really cool organic polymods. Just an idea for the future.

I am looking forward to phase-modulation as mentioned and it would be nice to replicate the DX7 operators to some level as I believe the patents have now run out.

In any case, this is a really good update - thank you so much!

by n1nj4 » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:25 am

John Bowen wrote:The current OS uses the abrupt transitions, because I wanted to have the older style PPG sound
Just as I had hoped. :D

by John Bowen » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:10 am

The current OS uses the abrupt transitions, because I wanted to have the older style PPG sound, since Hans Zimmer had commented that he liked the character of that. We then planned to put in a choice for smooth or not, but this has been put on the list for later now.

-jb

by n1nj4 » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:29 am

John Bowen wrote:(like adding a choice of smooth or coarse transitions to the Wavetable indexing).
Hi John,

Which transition method will be used in the initial OS?

by HUROLURA » Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:27 pm

Great news !!!

by John Bowen » Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:53 pm

HUROLURA wrote:The SonicCore CZ osc available in Mod IV would be a great addition (similar to waldorf osc ...)
Yeah, exactly...those are the ones we would convert to the Solaris.
-jb

by HUROLURA » Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:49 pm

The SonicCore CZ osc available in Mod IV would be a great addition (similar to waldorf osc ...)

My 2 cents

by ThreeFingersOfLove » Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:43 pm

John Bowen wrote:Hi Arun,
We do have true linear FM on there now....which may or may not be what you mean when you say FM synthesis.
Well, it is my understanding that when people mention FM they usually mean exponential FM, unless otherwise stated. In linear FM, the harmonics are added without shifting the pitch of the notes, except at extreme settings. I would like to hear some examples, when possible.
John Bowen wrote: Further on, we have plans for a Filter Bank/resonator, vocoder, and Multi-timbre Mode.
Can you please move Multitimbre mode to TOP priority?
:roll:

by John Bowen » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:32 am

Hi Arun,

What we have discussed is having the first update around June 2011. This would include "DX-7 style" FM, otherwise known as Phase Modulation. (I understand that the Casio version of Phase Distortion is a different approach, and we can also consider adding some for of that.) We do have true linear FM on there now....which may or may not be what you mean when you say FM synthesis.

Further on, we have plans for a Filter Bank/resonator, vocoder, and Multi-timbre Mode. I'm sure user requests by then will be added to the list, including some enhancements to the current functionality (like adding a choice of smooth or coarse transitions to the Wavetable indexing).

re: constraints that drive a timeline - money, mostly.

cheers,
john b.

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